 | Home > Maintenance & Modifications > Lightforce Spots or 40” Rigid Industry LED light bar |
 
|
|
|
| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069  
|
no contest - RI 40" bar - strong, bright and works
(waiting for Russ to recommend a 50") |
||
12th Oct 2012 10:25am |
|
| BigRuss Member Since: 15 May 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 2785  
|
And here I am
My vote would be for a rigid industries for sure but yes you could fit a 50" under a Hannibal or patriot rack with about 2" to spare either side. Russell 2011MY 110 XS USW Black |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 10:29am |
|
| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6678
|
I don't supply lightbars anymore so am not trying to sell my wares but my 2p worth is that they are designed for two different jobs.
The lightbars are truly awesome (although I firmly believe that you would be hard pushed to tell the difference between a RI bar and one half the price - having had both) but they are not designed for long distance whereas I believe the Lightforce are .... |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 11:03am |
|
| brightondefender Member Since: 14 Jan 2012 Location: East Sussex Posts: 97 
|
I have Lightforce and my only criticism is that I am on my 2nd pair in less than 12 months after the seals keep going to misting over. Just noticed this morning that one of the 2nd replacement ones as gone again as well.... not happy for a light thats over £300!
 |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 11:17am |
|
| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2410 
|
I have a 44" LED light bar on the way from china that I purchased for £209 with shipping within 7 days included. it is 14400 lumens which i presume is bright enough for the dark country lanes!
should arrive next week but looks vastly similar to the ones most UK suppliers sell for a huge price especially for a 44" version! 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) 2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 11:47am |
|
| Go Beyond Member Since: 30 Jan 2012 Location: Headcorn, Kent Posts: 6678
|
The only problems I've seen with Chinese supplied lightbars is water ingress, be sure to put an additional bead of silicon around the glass etc and you're good to go
 |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 11:49am |
|
| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
|
Well, you can always trust me to give a slightly different opinion
Due to the way different manufacturers present data about their goods it is not always possible to easily do a comparison of similar products. Candella, raw lumens, effective lumens, bulb power, light temperature etc can all be used to describe lights. Unfortunately no simple way of comparing different lights, (yes there are comparison charts from candella to lumens if you know beam angle, but then modern light bars have combo angles so it is not straight forward). Light output from good LED lightbars are 'whiter and more crisp' then that from a halogen bulb Lightforce 140 Lance lights are a good light and are about £175/pair • 12V 75 watt Xenophot® 4000 hour bulb (maximum wattage) 24V halogen available • LIGHT OUTPUT | 110 000 candela | 1 lux @ 450 m Each pair of lights will draw about 12.5 amps, are not E marked and so no matter how you wire them can not be legally used on the UK roads. Yes a good light, have four on roof bars switched as separate pairs, one pair aimed as spots in front of vehicle and outer pair for longer distance, following road edges is a good compromise. This is the current arrangement on our black 110. Rigid Industry 40" Light Bar 20 degree flood pattern 10 degree spot pattern Unbreakable Lexan Lens 6061 Aluminum extrusion Durable UV Powdercoat Finish Sealed Water Proof Connector Plug and Play Wiring Harness with Switch 9 - 36 VDC Believe Light output is 14,400 lumens and costs around £800-£1,000 Alternative to throw into the mix are the Lazer ST8 ST-8 Voltage Range 9-32V LED Life 50,000 hours Optical efficiency 88% Weight 800 gr HIGH BEAM PERFORMANCE Total luminous Flux 6944 Lm Number of High Output LEDs 8 Power consumption 86 Watts Current draw (at 14.4V) 6 Amps CERTIFICATION High Beam ECE R112 Position Light ECE R7 DIMENSIONS Width 360 mm Depth 82 mm Height 72 mm RRP £ 339.99 As E marked they are road legal if wired through the main beam switch correctly A pair will have light output of about 13900 lumens and will cost about £680. These are made in the UK. Was having a play with them at the weekend. YES I was impressed! Am in two minds what to replace the Lightforce 140's with. Do I go for 4 off the Lazer ST4? Two off the ST8's or 2 ST8's and two ST4's? Two ST8's are currently favoured option Brendan |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 11:59am |
|
| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
|
Rigid 40" Light output 15,800 lumens
I have a RI 40", it would be interesting to do a side by side comparison with a copy version. Saw a copy at the L2B last weekend, very good "replicas" but the copies don't (currently) have rigid mounded onto the body. There is a Youtube video by SteveS on the forum demonstrating just how good these lights are. |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 1:53pm |
|
| mobilecentre Member Since: 05 Mar 2012 Location: Evesham Posts: 645
|
Or a mix of LED driving lights
2 x Pencil for long range 2 x Drive for medium range and spread Lumens is a good measurement but most quote raw which is the light generated at the LED not the light reaching the road which Speaker term as effective lumens. Pencil is around 45W, 4500 lumens, 117500 Candela and has 4 leds with a PC lens and replaceable covers which are available in coloured filters, clear and black for protection only. Choice of housing colour and lens material if required Cost wise around £1600 + VAT for set of four. |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 2:29pm |
|
| Honker Member Since: 26 Jun 2011 Location: St Albans Posts: 353  
|
Tim, YHM Stu |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 2:52pm |
|
| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20413
|
I know the seals you mean. I put a little silicone grease on mine but I have Roo's not LF and never had any issue with misting over in over two years or any other problem for that matter! Only a little damp under the protective lense and that is going to happen in wet weather but under use this soon burns off. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
🇬🇧ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸ðŸ›¢ï¸âš™ï¸ðŸ§°ðŸ’ª |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 3:02pm |
|
| Timo K Member Since: 23 Aug 2012 Location: Helsinki Posts: 171 
|
Sorry for the OT, this is a serious question, but how fast do you people drive?
I live in Finland and we have quite alot of big game moving about, deer, moose... They are a serious danger especially during autumn when it's dark, wet and light reflects poorly off the tarmac. I'm personally not the least bit interested in what happens 200 or 300m away or more. 80kmh equals 22m/s, 200m is 9 seconds... If it's dark you shouldn't really be driving at motorway speeds anyway unless the road is well lit and then you don't need the spots in the first place. Over here if you're rumbling along at 60mph on a poorly lit road with your fancy spot beams showing what's happening half a mile away and you're concentrating on that, you're guaranteed to have an accident. It's the side of the roads that you want to see, surely? And it's pretty much impossible to keep an eye on both what's half a mile away and what's 30-100m away on the side of the road. If you spot an animal on the road 400m away it's of no threat to you whatsoever, 60m different story... What you want to see are the critters on the side of the road. A good spread of light also helps on twisty roads to see the ditches and what's around the corner before you've actually gone around it. Just wondering... |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 4:26pm |
|
| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015 
|
I have to agree with Brendan and Timo.
I have both, a pair of LF 240XGTs on the roo bar, and a LED light bar on the roof. The spots have a range of about 500 metres (in detail), and the light bar has awesome, light everything up in detail, but has a range of about 100-200m.So the question will be, what do you want it for? Another benefit of the LF lights is that you can get different filters for different conditions and also adjust the light pattern. I have had the Light Force spots on the front of mine for about 24 months now in temperatures from -30 to +45 without a single problem. I love my spot lights especially when out in open areas- like when going over the dunes at night- if you can only see about 200m ahead you will get lost very quickly. Glyn   |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 4:45pm |
|
| mobilecentre Member Since: 05 Mar 2012 Location: Evesham Posts: 645
|
Are we saying this is overkill??
 Click image to enlarge |
||
|
12th Oct 2012 4:55pm |
|
|
|
| All times are GMT |
< Previous Topic | Next Topic > |
Posting Rules
|
Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
