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bm52



Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
this from the Puma manual:

Road spring data
Road spring Part number Colour code
90 2 seat utility (2400 Kg)
Front - Driver's side REB500200 Red/green/white
Front - Passenger side REB500220 Red/green/orange
Rear - Driver's side NRC 9448 Blue/red
Rear - Passenger side NRC 9449 Yellow/white
90 2 seat utility (2550 Kg)
Front - Driver's side REB500200 Red/green/white
Front - Passenger side REB500220 Red/green/orange
Rear - Driver's side RKB101230 Green/yellow/red
Rear - Passenger side RKB101240 Green/yellow/white
90 4 seat station wagon (2400 Kg)
Front - Driver's side REB500200 Red/green/white
Front - Passenger side REB500220 Red/green/orange
Rear - Driver's side RKB500290 Red/green/green
Rear - Passenger side RKB500280 Red/green/red
90 4 seat station wagon (2550 Kg)
Front - Driver's side REB500200 Red/green/white
Front - Passenger side REB500220 Red/green/orange
Rear - Driver's side RKB500270 White/green/pink
Rear - Passenger side RKB500310 White/green/purple
LHD 110 2 seat utility, 5 seat station wagon and 5 seat crew cab (3050 Kg)
Front - Driver's side NRC 8044 White/white
Front - Passenger side NRC 8045 Yellow/yellow
Rear - Both sides RKB101111 Purple/brown
RHD 110 2 seat utility, 5 seat station wagon and 5 seat crew cab (3050 Kg)
Front - Both sides NRC 8045 Yellow/yellow
Rear - Both sides RKB101111 Purple/brown
LHD 110 7 seat station wagon (3050 Kg)
Front - Driver's side NRC 8044 White/white
Front - Passenger side NRC 8045 Yellow/yellow
Rear - Both sides RKB500300 White/green/green
RHD 110 7 seat station wagon (3050 Kg)
Front - Both sides NRC 8045 Yellow/yellow
Rear - Both sides RKB500300 White/green/green
110 heavy duty and all 130 (3500Kg)
Front - Driver's side NRC 9448 Blue/red
Front - Passenger side NRC 9449 Yellow/white
Rear - Both sides 78 of 1212 RKB101111 Purple/brown BM52
Post #101258 20th Nov 2011 9:26pm
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MuddyMarky



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
bm52 wrote:
this from the Puma manual:

................RHD 110 2 seat utility, 5 seat station wagon and 5 seat crew cab (3050 Kg)
Front - Both sides NRC 8045 Yellow/yellow................


oooh, this is interesting! Mine are both yellow fronts on my DC and it 'leans' towards the drivers side. I'd been told the springs should be white/drivers side & yellow/passenger?

Wonder what could be the problem if the list above is correct then? Question Mark
2011 110 XS DC
Stornoway Grey
Post #101267 20th Nov 2011 10:01pm
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mick



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England 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red
Who sells ironman shocks.
Post #101271 20th Nov 2011 10:07pm
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fishrider



Member Since: 01 Dec 2010
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Keswick Green
Cheers for the info , I will check tomorrow and report back. They're caked in mud at the moment so i can't find the coloured bands .

Over inthusiastic driving along the farm tracks yesterday evening , looks like a Paris Dakar race car 110 HT TD5 - 110 XS SW Puma
Post #101277 20th Nov 2011 10:31pm
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defender75



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2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Chawton White
Weird I dont see a stripe on my rear shocks
Post #101297 21st Nov 2011 1:19am
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defender75



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2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Chawton White
For a 110 which is heavy duty in the rear
white or brown?

Why would I not have a stripe?
Post #101298 21st Nov 2011 1:22am
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
defender75 wrote:
disco hd springs fit?



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Post #101299 21st Nov 2011 2:09am
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leeds



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United Kingdom 
mick wrote:
Who sells ironman shocks.


Westcoast 4x4 are the importers.

If you need any help getting hold of them give me a shout.

Brendan
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bob neville



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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
MuddyMarky wrote:
bm52 wrote:
this from the Puma manual:

................RHD 110 2 seat utility, 5 seat station wagon and 5 seat crew cab (3050 Kg)
Front - Both sides NRC 8045 Yellow/yellow................


oooh, this is interesting! Mine are both yellow fronts on my DC and it 'leans' towards the drivers side. I'd been told the springs should be white/drivers side & yellow/passenger?

Wonder what could be the problem if the list above is correct then? Question


Mark

Just checked mine again and they are as follow (which is also in the list posted but for LHD !!!)

LHD 110 2 seat utility, 5 seat station wagon and 5 seat crew cab (3050 Kg)
Front - Driver's side NRC 8044 White/white
Front - Passenger side NRC 8045 Yellow/yellow
Rear - Both sides RKB101111 Purple/brown

I think the LHD and RHD specs may be round the wrong way Question

Also, if you look at the HD springs they are handed and the specs for them are correct.
Bob
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szracer



Member Since: 10 Oct 2010
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England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Bear in mind that part of the reason the Defender ride seems quite wallowy/jiggly on bumpy tarmac, is down to the ARBs allowing lateral pitching.

If you soften the springs too much, you will have even more 'interesting' handling, as the shocks will not damp enough for the amount of 'high frequency' movement (you can tell I'm not an engineer here, but I have been racing cars for nearly 20 years, so it must count for something?) they will be doing.

I played around with dampers and rear springs (left the front springs OEM - There's a fair bit of weight at the front), and now have a really good on-road ride. The fact that this great ride is then destroyed when carrying passengers, tells me that the anti-roll bars are not quite up to keeping the 110 level, meaning the springs and shocks are working harder (too hard?).

My next upgrade is thicker ARBs on front and back. I'm not looking at climbing boulders in my 110, so that suits me fine. My theory is that as long as the front and back setups are not too different, the 4WD should avoid any issues with understeer/oversteer.

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, though, so don't necessarily take my advice! Whistle



fishrider wrote:
Ah, no worries . I want to set mine up as a family wagon for the bumpy Cornish lanes here. I'd swap over to tougher springs again when going on trips. There's not a lot of info out there. I may just blow some wedge on some super light weight springs and report back here
 
2010 110 XS USW (the slow one)
1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ (the fast one)
2005 Ducati ST3
1954 Sunbeam S8
Post #101336 21st Nov 2011 12:22pm
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bm52



Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
[quote="szracer"].............They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, though, so don't necessarily take my advice! Whistle

LOL, that is where I was coming from as well. That's why I went with standard LR road springs and quality shocks. The ride is now comparable to the FL and a Saab Convertible, excluding a bit of pitch and a tad more body roll if pushed. On that basis job done! Thumbs Up

I have also been thinking about stiffer ARBs, to solve the roll issue, I will probably call JR Eng or similar for a chat. But not until the warranty has run out in early 2013. BM52
Post #101346 21st Nov 2011 12:52pm
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fishrider



Member Since: 01 Dec 2010
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Keswick Green
Still haven't checked the rear springs yet ! Will do this afternoon.

In a way I hope that they are OEM HD springs so can swap them out for a pair of standards. I can't complain about my OME shocks they were worth every penny.


SZRACER - what springs did you go with on the back ? I've been looking at JE engineering website and they do ARB's and spring sets . What a lot of these company's don't tell you is whether they are for a more taught / sporty ride or for better on road comfort. I'm sure the two are separate issues. 110 HT TD5 - 110 XS SW Puma
Post #101351 21st Nov 2011 1:11pm
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szracer



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England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
I ended up with a set of 'custom' made springs from Extreme 4x4 (good quality springs, but had to chase them for delivery). They should have my 'spec' on record if you ask.

They were still variable rate, very slightly softer than the OEM springs and about 20mm lower than the brown/purple ones.

My 110 still sits (very) slightly higher at the back, but is much more level, and will still tow my race car and trailer (1600kg) plus 100kgs of stuff in the back with no problems at all.

The cost ended up about the same as the JE ones, so I'd probably go JE if I was doing it again, although I'm very pleased with my ones.

I think you can get a tauter ride at the same time as more ride comfort on a Defender. The main obstacle to on-road handling is the amount of axle articulation for off-road. If you're prepared to sacrifice a little of this you can get a good 'interim' setup like mine. I suspect my ride would be improved further still by the thicker ARBs, but obviously this limits axle articulation off-road (altough I still reckon you'd be fine in most off-road settings apart from climbing VERY uneven terrain.



fishrider wrote:


SZRACER - what springs did you go with on the back ? I've been looking at JE engineering website and they do ARB's and spring sets . What a lot of these company's don't tell you is whether they are for a more taught / sporty ride or for better on road comfort. I'm sure the two are separate issues.
 
2010 110 XS USW (the slow one)
1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ (the fast one)
2005 Ducati ST3
1954 Sunbeam S8
Post #101365 21st Nov 2011 2:10pm
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mick



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England 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red
leeds wrote:
mick wrote:
Who sells ironman shocks.


Westcoast 4x4 are the importers.

If you need any help getting hold of them give me a shout.

Brendan

Can't find a website Confused
Post #101393 21st Nov 2011 3:57pm
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fishrider



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Keswick Green
What is the difference between dicovery HD springs and standard dicovery springs. If you were going for out and out road comfort would you not just go for the disco springs instead of the HD ones ? Or is the defender heavier and thus needs the disco HD .

SZRACER - Thanks for the info . I'm going to call JE in the morning. My rear spring are green green white so they are the standard spring after all. I'm preparired to lose a bit of articulation . JE's are front and back , would be interesting to hear what they are compared to the standard OEM springs. 110 HT TD5 - 110 XS SW Puma
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