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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Just found the 2012 MOT test manual -
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MOT%...Manual.pdf I was just about order a new exhaust from Alive with decat etc but then found this in section 7 as a reason for failure A catalytic converter missing where one was fitted as standard ![]() No mention of it just being a visible test either. Apologies if the link does not work, the site appears to have just crashed ! Lucky I saved a copy. Bob |
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks Brendan, hopefully Martin will pick this up.
Bob |
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K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The issue of the new MOT rules pertaining exhausts/decat which is covered on page 157 of the new regulations have been covered before. It cannot I imagine be enforced retrospectively????
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8411.h...p;start=15 Cut and pasted from Nosnibod's post on the subject.... I think this line "3. On vehicles that qualify for a full cat emissions 3. test, check the presence of the catalytic converter." means that IF the vehicle requires a "full cat" test THEN check for the presence of the cat. On checking the section for a "full cat" test it ONLY refers to spark ignition (i.e. petrol) engines. This is because diesels only have a smoke test. So on that basis I think diesel-engined vehicles can have the cat removed and pass the MOT. Does anyone else read it the same way I do? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I read that post as well
![]() In the Vosa manual the wording is as you say 'On vehicles that qualify for a full cat emissions test, check the presence of the catalytic converter. ' Just need to find out what that statement means in respect to a Defender. Probably easiest to go and ask an MOT test station what tests they do on a Defender. Bob |
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SteveT247 Member Since: 21 Feb 2011 Location: Central Posts: 491 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Like you say, may be best to check with a MOT station but I think that means petrol engines as they qualify for the full test while diesels are a smoke test. |
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Found this on the MOT procedures and K9F is right, cat 3 test only applies to spark ignition vehicles
![]() 'The catalyst test is part of the MOT test for most spark ignition petrol engined passenger cars with four or more wheels first used on and after 1 August 1992.' Looks like money spending time has arrived, 15 hours double time today should just about cover a SS system from Alive ![]() Bob |
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bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 ![]() ![]() |
have a look at section 1.7 page 1 -
> Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted, switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted. reason for rejection: > A headlamp levelling or cleaning device inoperative or otherwise obviously defective so if the vehicle does not have levelling or cleaning is that OK ? |
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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2659 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As it says 'check the presence of the catalytic converter' can't this then just be left in the back and taken out again when you get home
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wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581 ![]() ![]() |
Bob - the heat shield at the upper end of the downpipe near the turbo tends to obscure the missing cat. It's more obvious on Td5's.
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bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Great idea Mark - it does not mention where it has to be or if it has to be connected to anything ![]() WSLR - I agree, not going to worry about it and get the new system ordered up next week. Bob |
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