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doberman



Member Since: 05 Aug 2012
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Galway Green
New diff
Bad day, gotta have a new diff after 16500 miles!!
Post #251921 17th Jul 2013 4:42pm
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landybehr



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think positive - some unlucky drivers have had that defect with even less mileage. And itīs new enough to be fixed under warranty Smile

(Not that I could understand why these things fail when still new, while at TDI-times I never heard about problems. Or just memory doesnīt serve me well).
Post #251930 17th Jul 2013 5:12pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Front or rear, and what year of Defender?
Post #251949 17th Jul 2013 7:15pm
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doberman



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Galway Green
It's the front ,2012 utility
Post #251950 17th Jul 2013 7:20pm
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
See if you can chat up the service dept for you to pay the extra, and have a 4pin diff fitted (unless it's already got a HD front axle), shouldn't cost much, and you get a nice HD one then.
Post #252017 17th Jul 2013 10:30pm
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doberman



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Galway Green
Good call that, that's worth a phone call in the morning
Cheers
Post #252021 17th Jul 2013 10:33pm
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william8



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Scotland 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Land rover dont produce the 2 pin diff anymore from what i have heard.

Better fitting an ashcroft ATB cheaper (i know you have warranty but will it break down the line?) And it takes up the slack in the drivetrain nicely Cool William
Post #252047 18th Jul 2013 12:23am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
A 2012 110 will have a 4-pinion diff as standard.

Unusual for a 4-pinion to fail, do you know what was the failure mechanism? 2-pinion failures on early Puma 110s are not unusual, photos of a typical failure from my gallery:-


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Not easy to make out, but the pin has sheared allowing the differential pinions to shift and seize the differential gears. It was very 'interesting' driving when this happened!
Post #252958 22nd Jul 2013 11:48am
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
10MY onwards should have all been fitted with 4 pin front diffs. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #252995 22nd Jul 2013 1:40pm
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doberman



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Galway Green
Back on the road today, happy to give back the Renault traffic I've had since last Wednesday !!
I'm no mercanic but I was told it wasn't the diff it was some part inbetween the diff and transfer box, its come back with a stiffer clutch and a nice tight gearbox which feels nice.
Post #253119 22nd Jul 2013 10:18pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
jst wrote:
10MY onwards should have all been fitted with 4 pin front diffs.


John
does that include 90s? DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #253148 23rd Jul 2013 6:06am
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
110s only, 90s still have 2pin front i believe, would have to check to be sure though Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #253155 23rd Jul 2013 7:24am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I was told by a main dealer that LR now ONLY supply 4-pinion diffs, which rather suggests that the 90 has a 4-pinion in the front as well. I think that the 90 now has a 4-pinion Rover pattern diff front and rear, the 110 has the 4-pinion Rover front but retains the 4-pinion P38 rear.

The 2-pinion Rover pattern diff part number has been superseded by the 4-pinion Rover pattern diff number in the EPC.

I never really understood why the 90 only 'needed' the weaker diff if the 110 needed the stronger anyway, after all they have the same powerplant and transmission, and the GVWs (or MAMs in the modern vernacular) are not that different.

It would be interesting if someone 'in the know' could confirm this for certain.
Post #253183 23rd Jul 2013 9:11am
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
i will check, but it wont be for a while Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #253235 23rd Jul 2013 1:05pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
90s have a 2 pin front. all of them. Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #253543 24th Jul 2013 9:56pm
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