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Caterham



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hadn't thought of that.....

could be but I certainly hope not cos if thats the cause it makes me think the problems I've had along wont have gone away

Confused
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The casing shown with the hole in is just a empty pipe style casing, it protects the output shaft and of course lets the transfer case fit to the rear of the gearbox.

From memory this hole mentioned in my defender also, the oil could be from the box of the transfer case seal when they have put the imput shaft it. They are supposed to change the output seal on the transfer case when fitting the new gear and if they havent it may be damaged.

It could also be a new seal and when they fitted the gear they heated it up to much for the fitting and that has damaged the seal.

either way im sure they will sort it.


Pete


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Post #195509 21st Dec 2012 8:49pm
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not sure Pete.....

but the LRA guy said it'll be a new gearbox and took photos with his pen in it (to demonstrate there was a hole)...

there's also alot of oil on my drive


I just hope it gets sorted.
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This pictures shows the notch in the casing.


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Pete
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Shocked

mr LRA is gonna look like a muppet then as he's taken photo with his pen sticking in the hole.............

unless there's another hole???

let me go have another look before they take the car away in the morning?


oh why oh why is nothing easy?


hmmm.....'thanks' Pete....thought this was all sorted now you've gone pee'd on my fire Very Happy
Post #195523 21st Dec 2012 9:37pm
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Pete,

you're only completely right again.

like you say the hole should be there...there's another one on the bell housing.

regards gaskets - when they replaced the input shaft they mentioned something to do with a replacement 'flange' and it being some new fix?

like you say they'll sort.......I'll let you know how I get on.

Merry Christmas all.
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I would think its the seal shown as number 4 or the one in the transfer case which is not shown in this picture.
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Easy enough to find out which, what kind of oil is it? If it's EP90 then it'll be the transfer box input seal. If it's whatever goes in the MT82 gearbox, it'll be that Razz

In the photo, is up and to the left towards the front of the vehicle, down and to the right towards the rear?

I'm not very familiar with the workings of the Tdci, but it looks to me like that "hole" is on the interface between the MT82 and that stupid extension/adapter housing which they used to bodge it onto the LT230. This is the bit with the infamous dry splined joint that likes to fail and cause transmission play/failure.

So I'd wager that the output seal on the MT82 has failed, and the oil is draining into the extension housing and out of the hole. No idea what would cause the failure on such a new vehicle though.
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I'm just hoping they sort it.....

the big question is do you think this (whatever this is) could be the route of my problems for the last 2 years....

I've always thought lack of power, rattling (which I always thought was engine pinking / fuel starvation) was an engine issue however I'm now convinced the problems all lie somewhere between the engine top end and the diff Very Happy but more likely the gearbox or transferbox?

the new clutch and input shaft definately improved things for a short while however it didn't put things back to what I would have expected to be right and before I got home tonight I was thinking there was a loss transmisson momentum in the transmission when changing gear and hence making smooth changes difficult.
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is that coming or going DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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going.....from what I gather its likely to be mid Jan when I get it back. gather dealership service dept is closed until the new year so presumably by the time they get back strip down obtain parts, satisfy me that they're not puting a temp fix back together I can't see it being before at least mid Jan !

so this lra visit was 21/12/2012 for gearbox / transfer box, last lra visit for gearbox / transfer box was 27/10/2012 which resulted in car off road for 2 weeks and in between had car off road for almost 2 weeks to sort wipe motor problem.
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You have to ask if they have sold you a pup and should by now be replacing the whole vehicle!!! DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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Are they giving you a replacement 110 while its being fixed..?

cheers

simon
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pup ? that's not quite how I see it but then if I were to describe what I think I'd have martin down on me like a ton of bricks (and rightly so Thumbs Up )

a replacement 110.....sore subject. I am to say the least not happy. A poxy little freelander with 5 seats.....the inlaws are over from the states for xmas and now 7 seats has become 5 ! not happy.

plus it looks like I'm gonna have a bit of spare time to do a few jobs on the car due to outstanding holiday from work which I need to take but.......no car !

grrrrrhhh !
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